Alexander in Midlothian; also Connecticut, Washinton, Oklahoma Guthries

[Bambi Koch]

I’m hoping to make cousin connections with my Connecticut, Washington, Oklahoma & other Guthrie cousins!

I can trace my ancestry back to Alexander Guthrie, chr. 31 Jan 1777, St. Cuthberts, Midlothian, Scotland. Emigrated to England where he m. Margaret Bruce. D. abt 1849. 2 sons.

Son: Robert Guthrie, b. 27 Dec 1802 London, England, chr. 29 May Clement St. Danes, London, England. m. Elizabeth Ann Watts, had 7 children while in England, then emigrated to US, finally settled in Connecticut, had 3 more sons during that time.

Son: Edmond A. Guthrie, b. 13 Aug 1849, Norwalk, CT. He emigrated west to Washington Territory. M. 1) a woman born in Alaska about 1879; 2) Maria Amanda Ameila Stuhmer, with whom he had three children; d. 1890 Seattle WA in a pile driver accident.

Daughter: Florence Mabel Guthrie, b. 18 Feb 1889, Seattle, WA, m. Albert Studiford Koch, d. 11 Jan 1855, Los Angeles Co, CA. Children [all born in Seattle or Spokane, WA]: Albert Alan Koch [1916-2010], Caroline Guthrie Koch [1917-1992], Patricia or Leslie Koch [1921-1085], Bradley William Koch [Living], Dorothy Marie Koch [Living], David Henry Koch [My Father, 1927-1999, Twin of Dorothy],

Me: Bambi Lynne Koch, b. Santa Monica, CA, Married Ervin Joseph Grissette 26 May 1979, Boulder City, NV; Children: Ervin [Toby] Joseph Grissette, Jr [Living], Russell Bruce Grissette [Living], Jordan Patrick Grissette [Living], Stefan David Grissette [Living], Daniel Tyler Grissette, [Living].

[Sarah AVERY]

Hi Bambi,

I am Sarah Avery, and I am related to some Oklahoma Guthries. They arrived in Oklahoma from Ohio/Michigan and would all be related to Henry Charles Guthrie (1832-1910). I do not, however, recognize any of the names you posted on August 21, 2022.

Sarah Avery (Michigan)

[Ann Guthrie]

According to the 1851 and 1861 Census of England, Alexander Guthrie was born about 1782. There is a baptism recorded for 28 Jan 1782 in Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland England for an Alexander Guthrie whose father was also named Alexander Guthrie. Mother’s name not listed in the register. This is the same location that your Alexander Guthrie married Margaret Bruce on 27 May 1799.Children were Robert, John, and possibly David. The latter’s marriage record listed witnesses Alexander and Robert Guthrie.

Alexander Guthrie shows up in the 1811 Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland directory as a tailor and habit maker. Margaret is most likely the Margaret Guthrie who died in Berwick, Northumberland, England in Oct-Nov-Dec of 1837. Alexander Guthrie appears to have remarried to a Mrs Ann Smith. Alexander and Ann are found in census and directories in later years for St James. In 1851, he is living in the Carr household in Newcastle with his stepdaughter Ann’s family. He is buried in Jesmond Old Cemetery in Newcastle Upon Tyne. His tombstone was erected by a grandson, Malcolm Guthrie, who appears to be a son of David Guthrie.

If the above is accurate, then your ancestor Alexander was born in England rather than Scotland, and about 1781-1782 rather than in 1777. His father Alexander was also noted to be a “taylor” (tailor/clothier). If the father was 20-40 years old at his son Alexander’s birth in 1781, his own DOB would be about 1741-1761. No idea if he was born in Scotland or England, but his death was most likely in Northumberland, England.

— Ann Guthrie
Guthrie DNA Project Admin
guthriegenealogy.blog

[Bambi Koch]

Thank you for your in-depth research on my Alexander Guthrie family. I appreciate your insight very much & this has opened up new ideas & possibilities! I’m just now seeing this post, so forgive me for the long delay in responding. — Bambi

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